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🗓️ 31 December 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, it's Natalie. This week, we're revisiting some of our favorite shows from the year, |
| 0:06.8 | listening back and hearing what's happened since the episodes aired. Today, we're returning to a |
| 0:11.9 | story I could not stop thinking about this year. It's about a woman who got into a romantic |
| 0:17.5 | relationship with chat GPT, someone who used the chatbot technology to create an artificial boyfriend and then fell in love with it. |
| 0:27.8 | I talked to reporter Kashmir Hill about everything that's happened since. |
| 0:32.7 | It's Wednesday, December 31st. |
| 0:36.5 | Kashmir, welcome back to the show. Thank you. |
| 0:39.1 | So you're known here at the times for covering some of the strangest, most futuristic corners |
| 0:45.4 | of the tech world. But even for you, it seems like this story of this woman and her relationship |
| 0:51.7 | with a chatbot really stood out. So tell me about it. |
| 0:55.6 | General of AI has been on my radar as a tech reporter, you know, once OpenAI released ChatGBT. |
| 1:02.5 | All of a sudden, the kind of world of AI chatbots exploded. And at first it was just like a better |
| 1:08.8 | Google. But then people started using these chatbots in other |
| 1:12.3 | kinds of ways as a writing partner, like writing stories together, as a therapist. And so I was just |
| 1:21.3 | noticing in the AI space more and more reports of people having relationships with chatbots, and I really wanted to |
| 1:29.5 | understand it. And I came across this woman, Irene, who had formed quite a strong attachment |
| 1:36.1 | to chatchibati. Okay, tell me what her story is. So I first talked to Irene last year. |
| 1:43.4 | So yeah, I just want to start just a little bit about you, what you're comfortable sharing, like, in terms of age, like, where you are. |
| 1:50.9 | So I'm in my late 20s. |
| 1:53.5 | Okay. |
| 1:54.2 | She's really bubbly. |
| 1:56.5 | She's really outgoing, easy to talk to. |
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