This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

Hi guys, today we got a special interview for you today and is with two guys. It is with

Sean Carney and Steve Carlin. Both of them work for 40 days for life. 40 days for life is an

international anti-abortion organization that campaigns against baby murder in more than 60

countries. So Sean Carney is the CEO and president of 40 days for life. He is also the co-founder. He

helped co-found the organization back in 2004 and he's written now for bestselling books and he was

depicted in the pro-life movie unplanned. I actually did an entire episode on that movie and that

book back on episode 70 of this podcast. And then Steve Carlin is a campaign director for 40 days

for life. He's an author and a co-host of the 40 days for life podcasts. Both of these guys are

sought after pro-life speakers and they're actually co-authors of the new bestselling book called

What to Say When, the complete new guide to discussing abortion, how to change minds and convert

hearts in a brave new world in the forward by that book was written by Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire.

Guys, this was a very good conversation because we got into a lot of specific topics in terms of

abortion and a lot of arguments in terms of abortion. I've made reference to their arguments before

on this podcast when I talked about how to destroy a lot of pro-abortion arguments. We get into

some things that we didn't have a whole lot of time for but we got into a vitro fertilization.

We got into when people say I believe life begins a conception. A lot of great things. Guys,

there's so many good nuggets in this conversation. Again, it's always interesting when you can get

one guy on here to talk about this. But now there's two of these guys. They're very well-versal in

this. They've spent literally hundreds if not thousands of hours debating people whether on a

stage or just in one-to-one conversation on the issue of abortion. So they're very, very

versal in this. They know what they're doing. So I don't want to keep them from you any longer.

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