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This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

Hi guys, today we've got a return guest on the podcast. His name is Sean Carney,

so Sean is the CEO and president of 40 Days for Life, and he co-founded this organization

back in 2004. So 40 Days for Life is an international anti-abortion organization that campaigns

against baby murder in more than 60 countries. And I wrote this down. This actually came up during

the interview. They've convinced 240 abortion employees, abortion facility employees to leave

their jobs to date. They have saved over 21,000 babies lives, and they have gotten 116 abortion

facilities around the globe to close. I mean, they are right in the thick of it. I absolutely love

this organization. So Sean has also written four best-selling books on the subject, and his last

one is the one that we had him on the podcast to talk about previously episode 262. It's called

what to say when the complete new guide to discussing abortion, how to change minds and convert

hearts in a brave new world. And so in this interview, we didn't get to spend a whole lot of time

talking about pro-abortion arguments and how to defeat those things, but that book is in the show

notes. You need to get that book. You need to read it if you have not done that before. And again,

I mentioned he was here on episode 262 with his partner, Steve Carlin, and he is also depicted in

the pro-life movie unplanned. And I talked about that on episode 70 of this podcast. But in this

podcast, we talk about how he got into the whole subject of life and when that started for him,

his reaction to the dobs decision, his reaction to the leak, which came out about a month before

that, what pro-livers should be focusing on now. But we went down a few different rabbit trails

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