그리고

와우, 그래서 she really did have an affinity for animals

which is, you know, that speaks a lot to her heart.

I guess the word, I don't know if the word is affinity

but her identified animal was a turtle, a sea turtle.

Well, if you think about it, a sea turtle,

it has a very soft inside and a very hard outer shell

and it has those soft, doughy eyes and a smile

and they're very gentle creatures.

That's what she identified with

and that's kind of what she was like.

I mean, she had a tough exterior

but inside she was very sensitive and very soft.

Her disappointment in her father, her lack of self-esteem

and some things that she experienced

tormented her horribly.

And she just buried him in alcohol.

You know, there's all of the different kinds of people

that drink to excess and she didn't start drinking

so she was 21 and she went straight into it.

When Stacey was, you know, hanging out with the needle,

do you have any background on how they met or anything like that?

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