You'll be stunned by the tactics that they use to try to discredit researchers who come out on the wrong

side of important health issues. And there's nothing going on tonight.

We can in this city right.

I mean, it just came drunk and stay inside. Good afternoon Michael Malice here. Let that be your welcome for the next hour. We have with us a special guest.

I've been waiting years to get her on the show.

Cheryl Atkinson, her new book is entitled Follow the Science.

You've written several others as well.

I'm really excited to talk to you about this book, which is out this week, because I feel like what has happened during COVID and as a consequence of this is being memory-holed very intentionally, and there's a lot of very malevolent people who would rather

that the population kind of forget what had been done and have people suffer no consequences as a result of that.

So I'm very curious to discuss this with you and I have a signed copy.

But before we get to that I have to ask you something that's a slightly personal question.

That's, don't worry. When friends of mine have kids, a boy. a David with a B and your parents did that to you because every single time you check

into hotel you have to say Cheryl with an A but then they put the A before the L or they

put at the beginning or they just get flummoxed.

So true.

Because I just know how these people and then Akkison doesn't have an N so every single time

you know it's going to happen when you check into a hotel, am I correct?

It's so true, yes.

I blame my husband for the last name.

My parents for the first name.

Have you ever sat them down and being like, mom?

Or then they have to, then they have to put the

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