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Sharplink CEO on Why ETH Will Soon See a Boom in Demand: Bits + Bips - Ep. 934

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Bits + Bips, former BlackRock executive and SharpLink co-CEO Joseph Chalom joins hosts Austin Campbell, Chris Perkins, and Ram Ahluwalia to discuss why the Federal Reserve may move to ease rates despite a “Goldilocks” economy, the growing role of stablecoins in foreign exchange and settlement, and how major banks like JPMorgan and Citi are expanding their use of blockchain.  The conversation also explores Japan’s first yen-backed stablecoin, the implications of AI for the labor market, and the generational shift that could make crypto wallets the default interface for finance. Plus, the implications of CZ’s pardon and why it’s “bullish” to have Mike Selig chairing the CFTC. Sponsors: Binance Mantle Hosts: Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Guest:  Joseph Chalom, Co-CEO of SharpLink Gaming, Inc. Links: Reuters: Fed poised to cut rates this week, with more easing likely on tap WSJ: Trump Considers Fed Chair Selection by Year-End From Slate of Five Finalists CoinDesk: Gov. Waller: U.S. Fed to 'Embrace Disruption,' Pitches 'Skinny' Master Account Idea Reuters: World's first yen-pegged stablecoin debuts in Japan EF: ERC-8004: Trustless Agents Bloomberg: JPMorgan to Allow Bitcoin, Ether as Collateral in Crypto Push Unchained: Trump Pardons Binance Founder CZ CNBC: Trump names Michael Selig to chair CFTC; Selig cites crypto capital goal Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 💸 3:23 Why the Fed will likely still cut rates despite a “Goldilocks” economy 👷‍♂️ 6:47 Why Joseph says the labor market is at a “moment that matters” as Amazon cuts 30,000 jobs 🏛️ 8:26 What Chris shockingly heard at a recent Fed conference ⚖️ 10:15 What could force the Fed to become hawkish 🚀 12:33 How the Fed is “frontrunning innovation” 💴 14:46 Why Japan’s first fully yen-backed stablecoin, JPYC, is significant 🌍 17:36 Why Chris is so excited about stablecoins disrupting FX markets 🔗 22:55 Why L1 tokens may be the next “strategic commodity” 🏦 26:25 How major banks are joining the stablecoin race 👛 31:33 Why retail adoption could explode in the coming years 🤖 33:37 How AI agents could soon manage our payments 💡 36:34 Why JPMorgan decided to accept bitcoin and ether as collateral ⚖️ 44:04 Was CZ’s pardon fair, and what about “pay to play” concerns 🐂 54:55 Why having Mike Selig chair the CFTC is “bullish” for crypto Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

There's a fear that when AI starts to materially disrupt,

0:05.0

potentially have once in a generation interruption of white collar markets and knowledge workers,

0:12.0

the Fed may want to get ahead of that labor market potential significant downturn,

0:18.0

because when the labor market turns, it turns very fast and very hard,

0:23.6

and it's very hard to reverse.

0:25.8

This may be the first time the Fed's really been front-footed on innovation, not just leading

0:30.6

in like a rate cycle, but trying to truly lead it, transform in that system.

0:38.0

Hello, everybody, and welcome to bits and bibs, exploring how crypto and macro collide one basis point at a time.

0:45.2

So I'm Austin Campbell, self-described in recovering grouchy fixed income trader and professor at NYU Stern.

0:51.9

I'm your moderator for this show because, to be honest, we drew lots.

0:55.9

Somebody has to keep Chris under control, and I lost, so I have to do it.

0:59.6

With me today are Chris Perkins, part of the city crypto mafia president of coin fund,

1:06.0

and somebody who I can assure you has some heat on some macro topics and investing.

1:11.8

We also have Ram Alawalia.

1:13.6

Ram is the founder of Lumida Wealth and is also joining us for Money 2020.

1:17.9

So took time out from partying and gambling to chat with us.

1:20.9

Thank you, Ram.

1:22.2

And then finally today our guest, Joseph Shalom, the CEO of Sharpling, NASDAQ ticker, S-Bet, the former head of digital

1:30.6

asset strategy at BlackRock for five years with an over 20-year career at BlackRock

1:35.3

and friend of Chris Perkins.

1:37.3

Probably the most dangerous thing on the list that I've said.

1:40.9

Today, we're going to be talking about a number of different things, including Fed decisions,

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