Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

New episodes of Briden and are available early and ad free on Amazon Music or by subscribing

to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery app.

The new Panic is a new comedy podcast from Wondery that leans into our most absurd anxieties

and defuses them with humor and actual advice. Listen to Don't Panic on the Wondery app

or wherever you get your podcasts.

Sharon Salzburg has the dubious distinction I guess of being the only person to have been

on this podcast four times but she deserves it because she is a pioneer.

She is one of the people who helped bring meditation to the United States back in the

70s after spending some time in India. If you want to learn more about her at points

wrenching back story you should go back and check out episode eight where we really go

through all of that. But the reason why we're bringing her back on is just got a new book

called Real Love. You'll hear me admit this early on in the interview because I've been

so deep in my own writing for my own book that's coming out at New Year's. I've been a

bad boy, a bad friend and only read half of Real Love which is excellent as everything

she's written has been but I didn't get to read all of it so I admit that to her. She

if characteristically for somebody wrote a book about love was quite understanding about

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