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Today's guest, all around bat has a cool, cool, cool story.

He's an author, a television show host, conservationist, member of the Australian Defense Forces,

Shark Attack Survivor, Paul DeGelder.

G'day. How's it going?

Good. You have three books here too.

Yeah. Yeah. It's been a hard to write a book. Have you ever tried?

You made it so easy. You have three.

Yeah. Well, the hardest part is like deciding to sit down and start writing.

Once you're there and you're sort of like, oh, yeah, I got this story and I got this app,

you know, talking about sharks and this awesome adventure I had. It's okay, but

sitting down to write is probably the hardest bit. And so I did the first book in Australia,

no time for fear. And I never got released in America and I was living out here and I was like,

trying to embrace my new country and all these cool people I was meeting and I thought,

you know what, I need to redo no time for fear. So I sat down and I rewrote it,

uncaged and added the last eight years of all the shark week adventures as well.

And I'm not a professional writer, so I have this really good friend of mine, Greg Jones.

He's a British soldier. He's also a ghost writer for James Patterson, like New York Times,

Best Seller, written heaps of books for other people. His own fictional series about the Romans,

fighting the goal is like a legend. So I gave him the mess that I wrote and he turned it into

that. And then he helped me with shark once Harper Collins asked me to do that. So I didn't,

I didn't do it all by myself, you know, sometimes you need help. I listened to the shark one,

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