Now that you ventured off and a lot of times I feel like people, it's hard for people to find

their identity outside of basketball. Like how did you know what you wanted to do after basketball?

Well, I didn't really know what I wanted to do. My dad was the one who kind of came up with the idea.

Yeah. And I know, like growing up I never thought I'd work for like any company making shoes or clothes or anything.

So I always just knew how to dress.

I always, but I was a big Nike ID person.

I think that's kind of what my parents saw.

Yeah.

I'd make all types of color ways, all types of just drawing on like magazines of clothes and stuff.

So my dad came with the idea, and once he said it,

I kind of felt like I fit perfectly into that role.

So shout out to him.

He came up with that.

I didn't know what I wanted to do after basketball.

So talk about you joining, starting with Reebok and when you started

and all the things that you were able to do.

Joining with Reebok was pretty random because I was really close to going to go play in the NBA in Australia. Really? I just came back from there. It's so nice there. I still want to go. That's a long flight. It's 17 hours, you know. And what did you do on the plane for 17 hours? Well, like the first way, I didn't have any Wi-Fi, so I was like going through it, looking out the window, like.

Yeah, I would have lost it.

Yeah, I didn't have any Wi-Fi, so I was, like, going through it,

looking out the window, like.

Yeah, I would have lost it. Yeah, I was losing it at a point.

Dang.

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