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Well, hello there, my friends, and welcome back.

My name is Stephanie Safarian and you're listening to episode 469 of Sustainable

Minimalists.

This is a listener-supported show about intentional and

eco-friendly minimalist living. And on today's show I am offering up to you my first

in-person interview.

Now, let me back up.

This is a long introduction today, I must say.

So let's set expectations right here.

And now, long introduction today.

If you don't like a good introduction

and you just want to go to the interview,

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