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The Conversation with Dasha Burns

Shapiro on Trump, Fetterman and 2028 over cheesesteaks in South Philly | On The Road

The Conversation with Dasha Burns

POLITICO

News, Government, Politics

4.01.6K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Gov. Josh Shapiro (D-Pa.) sits down with POLITICO’s Jonathan Martin at Angelo’s Pizzeria, a South Philly institution, for a wide-ranging conversation about the future of the Democratic party, rising cynicism in American politics and the growing speculation around his political future in 2028. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:15.0

I think we are stale as a nation because of Donald Trump's leadership right now.

0:20.0

And in terms of being able to

0:21.6

build big things and do big things and at the same time more and more hate gets

0:26.0

injected into our system with more chaos and more cruelty and more corruption

0:30.3

because of the way he leads this is on the road and we're here at Angelo's in South Philly.

0:38.3

Governor Shapiro is coming in shortly and this place is already popping.

0:43.3

They got cheese steaks and pizza here.

0:45.3

Philadelphia, you know, usually you get either one or the other.

0:48.3

You go to a cheese steak joint, you go to a pizza place.

0:51.3

Everybody here swears by both.

0:53.3

People rolling over here, maybe had a couple

0:55.9

of beverages in them from the game, getting their steaks, getting their pies, pure filling. And

1:01.5

on the way, soon after, getting their water ice. Yeah, that's right, I said water ice.

1:06.0

I'm going to interview your governor here, Josh Shapiro in a minute. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. No, he's coming in. That's why I'm here. What should I ask him? You should ask him, what's your favorite cheese steak spot? There you go. What should I get? I got a cheese steak and a pizza, I'm not gonna lie. I do both. That's a big meal. Well, you have them for once tomorrow, you know what I'm saying? I like to all you think, bro. Big sport, not hard. Go, Phillies, baby! Let's go!

1:29.6

There we go. We're back behind the counter, see where the magic happens. So this is the pizzas here, and then back there are the steaks. And you can see all that sharp rovalone, just stacks of sharp rovalon.

1:44.7

Look at that. Beautiful.

1:45.7

They got so many steaks working, you got two different grills. So how'd you guys catch on somebody? How'd this blow up? Passion for food, I guess. Citas kind of put us on the map, and cheese steak stuck off. But what do you guys do when folks are coming here? They had a couple of beers.

2:00.1

They get their pizza.

2:01.0

They don't want to leave.

2:01.8

They want to eat it like as soon as possible.

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