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Sheila's wheels.com I still feel like a rookie in some ways like I'm still learning so much

the new generation they really don't give a damn they'll just hit you you for no reason. The amount of Kiwis and Ozies,

that were at Daytona was epic.

What's more expensive?

Racing or owning a farm?

Horses are a money pit.

I clean swimming pools, I painted fences.

Hopefully when I finish, people think of me as 97.

Go on to the ball.

California's Kevin Hartford doesn't. Welcome.

Thanks for taking the time.

As always, I appreciate it.

We wanted to just catch up with you.

I think just going back to the start of your second full-time season.

You've had a couple ovals now, but what's it been like just being able to go through the winter,

start over again, and kind of wrap your arms around everything that you guys have going on?

Yeah, it's quite a bit different winter to last year or summer.

I spent it in New Zealand again but yeah came

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