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Shane Meyer-Holt - Unlearning Capitalism: Learning to Care, and Be Cared For (N342)

Nomad Podcast

Tim Nash

Christianity, Faithshift, Deconstruction, Christianmysticism, Religion & Spirituality, Christianspirituality, Progressivechristian, Christian, Religion, Emergingchurch

4.7 • 658 Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

In this episode we speak with Shane Meyer-Holt—writer, speaker, and co-host of In the Shift podcast—about the impact of capitalism on our understanding of ourselves, our relationships and our need for care.

Drawing from his own experiences of parenting, community and faith shifting, Shane reflects on the way neoliberal values have colonised our lives. He invites us to critique capitalist assumptions with a view to building relationships and communities capable of holding the tension between the deep human desires for freedom and belonging.
Following the interview Nomad hosts Tim Nash and Joy Brooks reflect on their own experiences of and responses to the impact capitalism has on care in the Church and wider society. 

Interview starts at 13m 50s

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Transcript

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Welcome back to Nomad podcast. I'm Tim Nash and I'm very pleased to say this is still Joy Brooks.

0:41.8

Hello.

0:43.0

Hopefully you're refreshed and restored Joy Brooks because you've been in quotes wasting time, haven't you, a little reference there to today's interview at a retreat center. Did you have a good time, Joy?

0:53.3

Yeah. I'm going to quibble with the phrase

0:55.8

retreat centre because it was a Franciscan friary. I don't think they'd call it that because they're

0:59.8

literally just doing their Franciscan stuff and they offer hospitality to people who can come and

1:06.3

stay and if they want, join in their rhythm of prayer and all of that and can otherwise get on and do their stuff.

1:13.0

So I think you can ask to have a chat with a brother if you feel like you could do with some spiritual input.

1:18.1

Did you have a chat with a brother?

1:19.8

Well, I had lots of chats with brothers, but not a formal I need to talk to a brother kind of conversation.

1:27.0

But yeah, I mean, they were lovely,

1:29.2

very lovely, warm human beings. And the time wasting I did was marvellous. I wasted time

1:35.5

going for walks along the seafront. I wasted time sitting in their gardens, listening to all the

1:40.5

it was never silent there because of so much birdsong. I wasted time having an accidental afternoon nap in the library on the sofa that looks out to see.

1:49.1

Beautiful.

1:49.5

I had so much sleep.

1:50.9

I wanted to stay up for Compline, which is meant to be a really nice evening prayer thing.

1:57.2

And I kept falling asleep before it, and it was only at half eight in the evening.

2:01.8

So I was falling asleep around that time, getting nine hours sleep and still managed to

2:06.3

have an accidental afternoon nap.

2:08.1

I have not felt so relaxed in decades.

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