Hey, welcome, everyone, to sideline sanity with me, Michelle Tofoya. This is a really interesting episode today.

Subscribe, please, so you can hear all of our interesting episodes. We try to deliver really good stuff every single day. Today is no different. Shane Hazel. Maybe you've heard of him. He served in the Marine corps after 9-11 was drawn to the marines

because of 9-11 and that may have been more than just a turning point in his trajectory of his

life it may have been a turning point in the way he thinks about america the world

politics all of it you you name it. He has got some

interesting things to say. He's big into Bitcoin. And for the first time, he makes it understandable

for me. And I hope for you, too. There's a lot to chew on with Shane Hazel. This will not be

the last time we have him on,

but it certainly will, I think,

wet your appetite for more discussion with him.

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She started very young.

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Shane, welcome.

I said in the intro that the first time I think I was exposed to you was on the Kennedy show on Fox Business Network. Kennedy's a good friend of mine. And so I watch her all the time. And I was very interested in you because you seem to be a libertarian that is like hardcore libertarian. And I didn't realize until I heard you speak that there are variations of libertarians, just like there are

shades of red and blue. How would you describe your version of libertarianism? I think if somebody

described it as right of Attila the Hun at one point, I don't think that's, we just really believe that any, anytime you're using force and

coercion, you're, you're not doing it right, right?

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