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Texas Monthly True Crime: The Problem With Erik

Shane and Sally | 3. An Open Investigation

Texas Monthly True Crime: The Problem With Erik

Texas Monthly

True Crime

4.76.7K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, investigators Larry Counts and David Jones detail their initial steps in trying to solve the case—and share the story of how Shane and Sally started speaking with the authorities just months before they were killed. Then, officials at the Tom Green County Sheriff’s Office today share their frustrations with the initial investigation, and detail the surviving evidence from the crime scene.

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Texas Monthly.

0:07.0

Three years after Shane and Sally were murdered, the case was featured on the TV show Unsolved Mysteries.

0:20.0

In the show, there's a reenactment of the scene we described in our last episode.

0:25.0

The one where former sheriff's deputy Larry Counts visited Shane and Sally's apartment to get a gun from Sally.

0:31.0

She'd heard this gun was used in a murder and Sally just wanted to

0:36.1

get rid of it. The scene is set in March of 1988 just a few months

0:41.4

before the murders.

0:43.0

Shane, he's here.

0:45.0

Okay.

0:46.0

He's trying to find the gun.

0:48.0

Okay.

0:49.0

That's Larry's voice saying okay there.

0:51.0

He played himself in the episode. For all the attention the

0:54.8

murders had gotten, all the pleas for help on local TV, this was the first time

0:59.3

the gun story became public. This is the gun that guy gave us that I told you about.

1:04.0

Does he have any other weapons?

1:06.0

Yeah, he's got a whole toolbox full of guns.

1:09.0

Me, it's scary because you know these guys are...

1:11.0

In the episode, we never hear who gave Sally the gun.

1:14.7

But whoever he is, she's worried about this guy.

1:17.9

And Shane is worried.

1:19.2

The guy might hear they gave the gun to the sheriff's office.

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