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The Old Man and the Three

Shams Charania on the Craziest Stories He’s Reported, NBA Tanking & Expansion, and His Media Career

The Old Man and the Three

ThreeFourTwo Productions | Wondery

Sports

4.83K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of ‘The Young Man and the Three,’ we welcome ESPN’s Shams Charania! Shams shares some of the craziest stories he’s ever reported on (including Chauncey Billups’s arrest, Trump having Covid, and Anthony Davis and Kevin Durant trades), an in-depth perspective on tanking and expansion in the NBA, his career journey (which started as a high school student reporting on the league), his approach to which reports are worth sharing, and so much more! Let’s go!

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0:00.0

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0:03.2

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0:20.8

Look who we got here. Back in the house. Mr. Shab Sharani. What's up, bro? What's going on? How's everything? I'm good, man. I'm good. How are you feeling? Good. It's good to be in New York. It's the same weather as my home city in Chicago. But I'm here for the week doing TV work. I'm glad to pop in with you.

0:38.2

I feel like this is a,

0:39.3

I feel like this is about as dead a week for you,

0:44.9

maybe like end of August.

0:46.4

Like where does this rank in terms of lack of transactions

0:49.6

and or overall hecticness?

0:53.6

There's always this lull in March for sure. Like as much of a lull, right? The NBA is always 24-7, 365. That's how I've engineered my mind, my body, everything. But, you know, honestly, the last few weeks, a lot of my focus has been like, okay, we know we're not getting transactional. You know, the transactional stuff is is not there but you're

1:11.3

always looking for you're always looking into the summer you're always focused on what trades

1:15.5

do I have to keep an eye on what situations do I have to keep an eye on and then in the last few weeks

1:19.5

like expansion and the anti-tanking draft lottery reform has has been like my main focus here's a

1:25.5

question I think I've talked about with you for sure.

1:28.9

We talk about this with a lot of the players sometimes too.

1:31.5

In the modern media ecosystem,

1:34.9

where it feels like every two-game,

1:37.2

every two-game losing streak,

1:39.4

the team's melting down.

1:40.6

Players got to get traded.

1:42.3

They all hate each other.

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