Shamima Begum: should we forgive the IS bride?
The News Agents
Global
4.1 • 5.4K Ratings
🗓️ 22 February 2023
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Most fifteen year olds do stupid things.
Rarely do they join a terrorist organisation in Syria. But today. Shamima Begum - the ISIS bride - lost her appeal - and with it her chance to regain UK citizenship. Do we feel safer as a country? Or soulless? And as Kate Forbes - committed Christian and SNP Finance Minister makes her case to lead Scotland, we ask another committed Christian, MP Tim Farron - once Lib Dem leader, now podcast host - if politics and religion can ever mix in Britain.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
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| 0:12.0 | I understand the anger at her, but that she's lost her passport. |
| 0:16.0 | If she was white and she was called Sharon from Manchester and she'd done something like that, |
| 0:20.5 | it wouldn't |
| 0:20.8 | even occur to the government to take the passport off somebody who was obviously British. |
| 0:25.4 | So I'm deeply uncomfortable about the lack of the ability for rehabilitation and repentance. |
| 0:30.8 | If we are a Christian country, we should do that. |
| 0:33.5 | And then I think the way we treat people from, well, non-white backgrounds, she was saying in the UK, |
| 0:38.8 | this is a reminder, as extreme one, that we aren't all equal and that some people's citizenship |
| 0:44.4 | apparently isn't as secure as others. |
| 0:47.1 | That's Tim Farron, the former Liberal Democrat leader, in a wider discussion about faith and politics. |
| 0:53.4 | But he was, of course, talking about Shemima Begham, |
| 0:56.2 | who was 15 when she left Bethnal Green in East London |
| 0:59.8 | to join Islamic State in Syria. |
| 1:03.2 | And the decision has come today |
| 1:04.7 | that she will remain stripped of her citizenship, |
| 1:08.3 | and in other words, is now stateless. |
| 1:11.5 | Welcome to the newsagents. |
| 1:15.7 | The Newsagents. |
| 1:17.8 | It's John. |
| 1:19.0 | It's Emily. |
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