Shameless meets Working Hard: the BTS of building a multi million dollar podcasting phenomenon

Working Hard with Grace Beverley

sophie@grace-beverley.com

Self-improvement, Marketing, Women In Business, Education, Careers, Stories, Advice, Ceo, Feminsim, Money, Business, Ceos, Health & Fitness, Self Improvement, Success, Women Leaders

4.2 • 901 Ratings

🗓️ 30 March 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

We're kicking off our Aus series with the Shameless girls!! I'm so excited. Since starting their podcast as a side hustle back in 2018, Zara Mcdonald and Michelle Andrews have built Shameless Media into a podcast network that accounts for 10% of Australia’s podcast wealth, and was reported to be on track to make over 10 million AUD in Revenue in 2025. So if you want to turn your passion into a million dollar business, you want to hear more about exactly how they’ve done that whilst staying true to their values, or if you’re just fans of Mich & Zara like me, this episode is for you!

SHAMELESS

Shameless Media: https://shamelessmedia.com.au/

Shameless Media Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shamelessmedia/

Shameless Podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shamelesspodcast/

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0:00.0	What is up? I'm Grace Beverly and welcome back to Working Hard, the podcast shape guide book on how to improve your own life and achieve what you actually dreamed of doing, because life's too short for boring podcasts and bad advice.
0:25.3	What is up and welcome back to Working Hard. I am joined by Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews, the founders
0:30.4	of shameless media and the hosts of the shameless podcasts, which has been one of my go-to
0:35.0	podcasts for absolutely years. And since starting the podcast as a
0:38.4	side hustle back in 2018, they've built shameless media into a podcast network that accounts for
0:43.2	10% of Australia's podcast well and was reported to be on track to make over 10 million
0:48.4	AUD in revenue in 2025. So if you want to turn your passion into a multi-million dollar business,
0:53.9	or you want to hear more
0:55.0	about exactly how they've done that while staying true to their values and building a life that
0:59.2	they actually love and want to live every day. This episode is very much for you. Before we get into it,
1:04.5	could you please do yourselves and meet a favour and follow the podcast wherever you're listening
1:08.9	to it on right now. I really want to
1:11.2	keep this podcast completely free for everyone like it always has been and I want to keep making
1:15.4	it even better and doing bonus episodes and all the other things that you've requested. So
1:19.5	if you could give us a follow, that would help us hugely and mean that you can continue to
1:23.2	get an episode ready to help you improve your life every single Monday, completely free.
1:40.9	Zara McDonald and Michelle Andrews, are you currently more working hard or hardly working?
1:43.0	We're working hard.
1:44.0	Yeah, it's funny. I think we're working slightly less
1:46.0	than we ever had. Yeah. Do you think that time spent working down. Good. Intensity of working
1:51.9	way up. Inspiring. Yeah. And I want to come on to talk about that because I think I've heard
1:56.9	you speak about that particularly when you were like setting your intentions for this year. And I thought that was very, I don't think we hear that that being talked about enough.
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