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A Little Bit Culty

Shameless: Dan Shaw on Gaslighting, Narcissists, & Recovering from Cultic Abuse

A Little Bit Culty

Sarah Edmondson & Anthony “Nippy” Ames

Education, Society & Culture

4.63K Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

A Little Bit Culty – Daniel Shaw, LCSW, checks every imaginable box on A Little Bit Culty’s dream guest checklist. He’s a psychoanalyst in private practice in New York City and in Nyack, New York. He originally trained as an actor at Northwestern University and with the renowned teacher Uta Hagen in New York City, and later worked as a missionary for an Indian guru. His eventual recognition of cultic aspects of this organization led him to become an outspoken activist in support of individuals and families traumatically abused in cults. Simultaneous with leaving this group, Dan began his training in the mental health profession, becoming a faculty member and supervisor at the National Institute for the Psychotherapist in New York. His book, Traumatic Narcissism: Relational Systems of Subjugation, was published by Routledge in 2014 and was nominated for the distinguished Gradiva Award. In 2018, the International Cultic Studies Association awarded him the Margaret Thaler Singer Award for advancing the understanding of coercive persuasion and undue influence. Shaw’s book Traumatic Narcissism and Recovery: Leaving the Prison of Shame and Fear will be published by Routledge in 2021. Dan joined Sarah and Nippy to share his story, drop some knowledge about the shameless ways of traumatizing narcissists, and provide insights on the recovery process. Learn more about him at: https://danielshawlcsw.com

Don’t get it twisted: The views and opinions expressed on A Little Bit Culty do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast. Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual, anyone or anything.

References: Dan’s newest book is available for pre-order here: https://danielshawlcsw.com/publications/ Gaslight (1944 Film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslight_(1944_film) Article: “Traumatic Abuse in Cults: A Psychoanalytic Perspective”

https://www.spiritualabuseresources.com/articles/traumatic-abuse-in-cults-a-psychoanalytic-perspective

A Little Bit Culty is proud to support the # IGOTOUT project, which empowers survivors of cultic abuse to share their stories online as a catalyst for education, prevention, and healing. Learn more at igotout.org For more information on A Little Bit Culty and co-hosts Sarah Edmondson and Nippy “Anthony” Ames, visit our official website at alittlebitculty.com. OFFERS: Scarred: How I Escaped NXIVM, the Cult That Bound My Life by Sarah Edmondson with Kristine Gasbarre, is available for 30% off at ChronicleBooks.com Use promo code: CULT30 CREDITS: Executive Producers: Sarah Edmondson & Anthony Ames Production Partner: Citizens of Sound  Producer: Will Retherford Associate Producer: Jess Tardy

Theme Song: “Cultivated” by Jon Bryant co-written with Nygel Asselin Additional Music Scores by Will Retherford

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0:00.0

The views and opinions expressed by a little bit culty are those of the hosts and do not

0:04.9

necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the podcast.

0:08.8

Any content provided by our guests, bloggers, sponsors or authors are of their opinion and

0:13.8

are not intended to malign any religion, group, club, organization, business individual,

0:19.4

anyone or anything.

0:30.0

Hi everyone, I am Sarah Edmondson and I'm here with...

0:33.2

I am Anthony Ames, Sarah's husband, aka Nippie.

0:36.4

And we're here to talk about things that are a little bit culty.

0:40.8

Speaking of, we were in a cult and we woke up, thank goodness, and we have a lot to say.

0:46.3

And a lot to ask.

0:48.3

This podcast is going to be a deep dive into everything from the red flags, to the narcissism,

0:53.2

the manipulation, the resiliency, the recovery process, and everything in between.

0:58.0

Also, we want to share some of the good we got out of it so you can get all the nuggets

1:01.6

without having to join a cult.

1:03.5

If you haven't already, because there are a lot of things out there that are just a little bit culty.

1:08.3

Welcome to a little bit culty.

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A podcast about the fads, beliefs and trends that blur the line between healthy and a little bit culty.

1:16.2

Please subscribe so you don't miss an episode and find us on Instagram if you have any

1:20.0

suggestions for things you have found to be a little bit culty.

1:28.1

The water fills my lungs.

1:34.8

This ground I worship has swallowed up its young.

1:42.5

You're for a promised high peak.

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