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Goes Without Saying. You're listening to Goes Without Saying with Sephi and Wing. I'm Wing.

And I'm Seffi.

And this is the second time I'm doing the intro because I feel like I just wasn't selling it right the last time.

I'm not quite sure what I'm trying to sell.

A bit of a hard episode to pin down, but it is actually one of my favourites I think we've done so far.

Wow.

What in the whole of us? I just had so much fun doing it.

I mean, the whole of us is quite a history, but we're talking about hashtag normalising things.

And I think there are some, dare I say, hot takes in here. I think there are.

I said, so in the last take, basically, what's going on there, that little silence.

In the last take, I said, I think they're lukewarm takes. I thought you might want to have your joke again.

I thought maybe that was the thing that made you not like the take, so I don't want to say it again.

But you liked that.

Yeah, I liked that.

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