meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
IndoctriNation

Shame-Sex Attraction with Dr. Lucas Wilson

IndoctriNation

IndoctriNation

Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

In this episode, Dr. Lucas Wilson shares his personal journey and academic exploration of Holocaust studies and conversion therapy. He discusses his experiences growing up, his struggle with faith and sexuality, and his in-depth research on the intergenerational transmission of trauma. Dr. Wilson also provides a detailed account of his time at Liberty University, his attempts to change his sexual orientation through conversion therapy, and the profound impact these experiences had on his life. This compelling conversation delves into the complex interplay of religion, identity, and trauma, offering valuable perspectives for anyone interested in understanding the long-lasting effects of oppressive religious practices.


Dr. Lucas Wilson's Links

Social Media Handles

- Instagram: @lukeslamdunkwilson

- Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson

- TikTok: @lukeslamdunkwilson

- Bluesky: @lukeslamdunkwilson.bsky.social

- Twitter/X: @wilson_fw

- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-wilson-2a0753b1/ 

- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/luke.wilson.96 


Links to Books

- Shame-Sex Attraction: https://bookshop.org/p/books/shame-sex-attraction-survivors-stories-of-conversion-therapy-lucas-wilson/5f133f339779ddb5?ean=9781805011323&next=t& (for those in the U.S.)

- At Home with the Holocaust: https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/at-home-with-the-holocaust/9781978839816/


Discount Code

The following is the 20% discount code for Shame-Sex Attraction: “WILSON20” (but the discount is only available through Jessica Kingsley Publishers' and the University of British Columbia Press' websites [the discount code does not apply to the links included above]). For those in the United States, this code can be used on Jessica Kingsley Publishers' U.S. website (https://us.jkp.com/), and for those in Canada, the code can be used on the University of British Columbia Press' website (https://www.ubcpress.ca/shame-sex-attraction).



Connect with us on social media: 

⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/indoctrination⁠⁠

Watch full video episodes of IndoctriNation here:

⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNAi0T2hzH9dM029dkTfj635PzuXl67jS⁠⁠

Support IndoctriNation on Patreon for exclusive bonus episodes and more: 

https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination⁠

Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

https://www.paypal.biz/indoctriNATION

Restart and Restore: A Journal for Survivors of Manipulation: 

https://a.co/d/1ssz4Rm

Restart and Restore: Companion Notebook:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FSCLTZN4

Download a Free Chapter from Restart and Restore:

https://education.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/restart-and-restore-campaign

Download Rachel’s Video Lectures and Webinars here:

https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html

IndoctriNation is edited by The Podcast Consultant:

⁠https://thepodcastconsultant.com/about

A quick note: this podcast is proudly partnered with a company, but the ads you hear are chosen by our network, not by us. Their views don’t necessarily reflect those of the IndoctriNation team.




Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

You are not alone. And now there are two resources that I've put together specifically for your journey.

0:16.0

This is your host, Rachel Bernstein. I am an educator and a therapist and a cult specialist, and I am very excited to announce

0:27.2

restart and restore a journal for survivors of manipulation and a companion notebook that I've put together to go with it,

0:39.3

that has people's stories that they've shared with me,

0:44.4

that they wanted to share with you,

0:46.4

and some wonderful quotes from people whose thoughts I truly admire,

0:52.2

and more pages and writing prompts for you to continue with the writing

0:59.0

that can help you along your healing journey.

1:03.5

This isn't just another blank journal.

1:07.1

It's a trauma-informed recovery companion, and it offers psychoeducation on the mechanics of manipulation and control and therapeutic writing prompts to explore your history and your strengths, practical exercises that transform insights into some actionable steps, and the freedom to heal at your own pace.

1:31.8

You can do it in the time frame that works for you without any judgment or pressure.

1:39.7

Whether you joined the organization or the relationship that was controlling as a teen or as an adult,

1:46.7

restart and restore provides the structure and I think validation needed to process your

1:53.5

experiences safely. I'm also excited to share beyond the journal and its companion notebook

2:00.5

that I'm currently working on a second journal

2:03.3

specifically for those born and raised in high control groups or high control family units,

2:09.6

as their healing journey often involves different and specialized challenges. Restart and Restore and its companion notebook are available now,

2:20.7

and you can find the link in the show notes.

2:23.9

Thank you very much.

2:25.4

I hope it's helpful to you or to someone you love. Welcome to Indoconation, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

2:55.3

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

2:57.7

Hello, everyone.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from IndoctriNation, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of IndoctriNation and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.