Okay, here we got. Stand by. Three, two, one.

The thinking atheist, it's not a person. It's a symbol. An idea.

The population of atheists in this country is going through the room.

Rejecting faith. Pursuing knowledge. Challenging the sacred.

If I tell the truth, it's because I tell the truth,

not because I put my hand on a book and made a wish.

And working together for a more rational world.

Take the risk of thinking for yourself.

Much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way.

Assume nothing.

Question everything. Assume nothing. Question everything and start thinking.

This is the Thinking Atheist podcast, hosted by Seth Andrews.

After my conversation with guest Dr. Lucas Wilson on today's show, I'm going to come back,

and in the last segment of the broadcast, I'm going to read chapter one of the book,

and he's given me permission to do that.

So once he and I sort of handshake and say goodbye,

I will return for the last segment of the broadcast and read from the book.

Here we go.

We start today by talking about the March 31st Supreme Court ruling in what has become a famous case that has to do with a Colorado therapist and something known as conversion therapy. We're going to talk about

what that is in just a second with my special guest. A quick primer. The Colorado legislature passed a law in 2019.

It was called the Minor Conversion Therapy Law, and it prevented counselors from gender-affirming

conversations with patients under the age of 18. There was a lawsuit filed in 2022 by a Christian therapist. Her name is

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