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Happy Place

“Shame keeps you silent!” Tell the truth to improve your self-worth

Happy Place

Fearne Cotton

Society & Culture, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Relationships, Personal Journals

4.615.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

For ten years of her life, Fearne was gripped by a deep feeling of shame; she chats through how she’s now learning to let it go. Shame breeds in silence, so we’re talking about it loudly in this episode...


-Shame researcher Brené Brown talks through how to cope with feeling ashamed through self-compassion


-Comedian Dawn French explains that we all need to embrace being a bit of a twat sometimes because we learn more from mistakes than success


-Artist Charlie Mackesy’s got some thoughts about how shame is stopping us being vulnerable and connecting with others properly 


-Mental health activist Ben West opens up about the shame he felt after his brother’s suicide

 

-Singer Lulu reflects on how ashamed she was of her difficult childhood

 

-Broadcaster Jamie Laing talks for the first time about his eating disorder and the shame he’s held inside for so long

 

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Brené Brown

Dawn French

Charlie Mackesy

Ben West

Lulu

Jamie Laing


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0:00.0

Hello and a massive welcome to Happy Place with me Fern Cotton. Today, a pretty gritty subject that can be really difficult to talk about.

0:10.5

But I know I've certainly got a lot to say about it. And that is shame.

0:15.2

Guilt is I did something bad and shame is I am bad.

0:19.8

This is other weird shame that hangs in you just because you

0:23.6

exist. And I absolutely believe people lead entire lifetimes defined by it. It's the feeling of it's just you.

0:31.1

There's a deeply lonely feeling. I've never spoken of this and still as I start to talk about this,

0:35.6

I feel like shame, right? You feel a bit of shame, then you feel ashamed about that and then it will just cascade.

0:41.3

You know, it's hard for me to say, but I had an eating sort of, for sure.

0:43.3

I had a lot of shame about my life, about moments in my life.

0:47.3

I was so convinced that I'd committed a crime that I was absolutely petrified of anyone finding out that I felt so ashamed.

0:54.8

And so obviously the violence and the alcoholism, I was ashamed.

1:02.4

Oh, where do I even start with Shane?

1:04.9

Like many of you, it is my least favourite feeling.

1:08.3

But also, like many of you, I have drowned in it at times. It has, at times it's

1:14.7

totally taken over because that is the nature of it. It's really insidious. It's very sneaky,

1:21.2

yet unbelievably powerful. Can hold rains on you for years and years. I would say for 10 years of my life, shame was weave through so many parts of it.

1:31.7

And I'm only now sort of coming to terms of that and letting it go.

1:35.9

And my God, does it feel good to let it go?

1:40.4

And I think when you're recovering from bouts of shame, there's lots of conclusions you can

1:47.7

come to. One might be that the shame wasn't yours in the first place. And that is deeply,

1:52.6

deeply important and very powerful. And that's certainly been part of my story. And also,

1:58.4

it leads you to believe that you're the only one feeling it. And as we know from

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