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Shame: Its Uses and Abuses

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 April 2022

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Some shame condemns and destroys, and some shame heals and restores. So how can we tell the difference between misplaced and well-placed shame?

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0:00.0

Happy Monday morning, everyone.

0:05.8

Thank you for tuning in and for listening to the podcast as we move well into our 10th

0:10.0

year now, uh, 1700 and 70 episodes in this is episode 1771, here we go.

0:17.9

And it happens to be, um, on the theme of shame of all things.

0:21.4

It's about healthy and needful shame.

0:24.8

If there is such a thing in the Christian life, here's the question.

0:28.4

Pastor John, hello and thank you for this wonderful podcast.

0:31.0

My name is Philip and I live in college station, Texas.

0:35.0

Uh, I've noticed that a lot of Christians today equate shame with condemnation.

0:41.1

They're by believing there's wrong for Christians to feel shame.

0:45.0

But Paul calls for shame in 2nd, Thessalonians 3, 14 or so, it seems to me.

0:50.3

So what healthy a role does shame play in the life of the church today?

0:54.4

And who here is the object of the shame according to Paul?

0:58.3

In this particular text, one of the reasons this is an important question is that we

1:05.1

can sometimes fall into the trap of thinking, well, if it's always good to move

1:13.8

beyond shame, then shame must always be a bad thing.

1:20.3

That would be a trap, I think.

1:21.4

Yeah.

1:22.2

That would be like saying, since we should always seek healing from having

1:28.1

our skin cut, therefore surgery is always a bad thing.

1:33.3

And you see the difference, having your skin cut by a knife is not in itself a good

1:39.9

thing and neither is shame in itself a good thing.

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