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The Virtual Couch

Shame, Certainty, Memory and Healing: An Updated Approach to Treating Betrayal Trauma

The Virtual Couch

Tony Overbay LMFT

Education, Mental Health, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

5643 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Tony Overbay, LMFT, and Marla Christensen, AMFT, APCC, dive deep into the complexities of betrayal trauma, focusing on the emotional and cognitive challenges faced by both partners. They explore how the betrayer's shame and fragmented memories often lead to staggered disclosures, which can further traumatize the betrayed partner. Over time, understanding the flawed nature of memory, the impact of shame, our desire to alleviate discomfort at almost any cost, and the human need for certainty is crucial. By developing emotional regulation, better communication skills, and a deeper understanding of oneself and each other, couples can approach the formal disclosure process with less pain, more intention and compassion, and potentially more realistic expectations. This discussion highlights the importance of patience, education, and therapeutic support in healing betrayal trauma.Tony shares the continuing evolution of his therapeutic approach for working with betrayal trauma, building off of his work with hundreds of couples over the past decade. Tony emphasizes the need to intentionally delay full disclosure until a strong foundation of emotional skills and mutual understanding is built. He explains how therapists must remain differentiated and confident in their methods to guide couples through this challenging process. By focusing on the concepts of memory, certainty, emotional immaturity, and effective communication, Tony and Marla offer valuable insights for anyone navigating the painful path of betrayal trauma.If you are interested in contacting or working with Marla, reach out to her at [email protected]:00 Welcome Back to the Virtual Couch00:24 Understanding Dual Licensing01:50 The Licensing Exam Experience02:31 Introducing the Controversial Theory on Betrayal Trauma03:39 The Concept of Formal Disclosure06:34 Personal Experiences with Staggered Disclosure09:15 Confabulation and Memory Mechanisms15:55 Therapeutic Approaches to Betrayal Trauma19:03 Recognizing Signs of Discouragement20:48 The Two-Choice Dilemma22:46 Understanding Memory and Its Challenges27:10 The Quest for Certainty in Relationships34:39 The Concept of Lying and Its Implications36:19 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsTo learn more about Tony's upcoming re-release of the Magnetic Marriage course, his Pathback Recovery course, and more, sign up for his newsletter through the link at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouchAvailable NOW: Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" is only $25.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the virtual couch.

0:04.0

Please take a seat.

0:06.0

Popillers, emotional majority.

0:09.6

And for pillars, what a tree.

0:12.9

You're not broken.

0:15.1

You're a human.

0:16.4

So check that out.

0:18.2

You don't know what you don't know is what it's all about.

0:24.6

Hey, everybody. Welcome to episode 423 of the virtual couch. I'm your host, Tony Overbay. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist.

0:31.6

And today we're diving into the challenging but the crucial topic of betrayal trauma. But before we get into the discussion,

0:38.8

let's start with an exercise to set up today's episode. Now, if you're driving, pay attention to

0:43.7

the road or if you're on the treadmill, you might need to slow it down a click or two or wait

0:48.5

for a little break, but I would love it if you could sit up a little bit, set up a little bit

0:53.7

straighter,

0:59.0

square off those shoulders, and give me a big old cleansing breath, in through your nose, and then out through your mouth.

1:04.1

And if you're up for it, go ahead and hit pause and maybe give me two more of those,

1:08.2

and then hit play. I'll be right here so now that you

1:12.1

are a bit more grounded I would love for you to imagine that you're standing on

1:16.4

the edge of a forest and beyond this forest lies a beautiful meadow it's a place

1:21.3

of peace and growth and healing but to get to this meadow you have to navigate

1:27.2

through a pretty dense, dark forest.

1:30.3

And as you start your journey, you're going to encounter thick underbrush and thorny bushes and fallen trees and stickers and a couple of spiders and some kind of gross bugs.

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