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The Rich Roll Podcast

Shame Can’t Survive The Light

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.713.3K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2015

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

I'm terrified. I don't want to post this episode. But hiding in the dark never helped me. Neither repression nor denial ever helped anyone. In order to grow, we need to honestly confront our past. Understand it. Then own it. Because you can't save your ass if you're trying to save face. Today I shine a light on an episode of my past that still causes me shame. Because shame can't survive the light. I'm terrified. I feel fragile. I feel vulnerable. And that's why I must post this episode. Because I need to walk my talk. Because embracing vulnerability ultimately leads to strength. Because shame can't survive the light. I can't say I look forward to your thoughts on this one. But go ahead. Post your comments anyway. Peace + Plants, Rich

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0:00.0

The Rich Roll Podcast

0:12.0

Hey everybody what's going on? What's happening? What's the news? How are you feeling? Are you feeling okay? It's gonna be okay.

0:21.0

It's Rich Roll here back on the podcast, your host of the podcast where I sit down with the outliers, the paradigm breakers, the big forward thinkers across all categories of excellence and positive culture change to mine the tools, the insights and the principles that can help all of us unlock and unleash our best most authentic selves.

0:44.0

So today we're back with another episode of Ask Me Anything with the lovely and beautiful Julie Piot how are you?

0:53.0

Hi Rich, doing good, thanks for having me. It's going good.

0:57.0

I'm ready to just cut myself open and reveal all everything inside.

1:03.0

Yeah, well I think I'm going to be doing that today. I'm a little nervous actually about what's to come. You are. It's going to be okay. We're going to be going deep and we're going to be divulging on a new level.

1:15.0

That's right. So I have some trepidation about it, but I think that's good. It's going to be a right indication that this is going to be an interesting episode I think. But before we get into it.

1:33.0

Okay, what's been going on lately? I've been banging out podcast interviews like crazy. I'm going to go ahead a backlog, which is kind of exciting.

1:43.0

Just did a very interesting podcast with this guy called Aaron Piersall a couple days ago.

1:50.0

Who if you don't follow the sport of swimming, if you do everybody knows who Aaron Piersall is, he's a three time Olympian.

1:57.0

Only three times. He's won a whole slew of like metals at the Olympics over three different Olympiads. And he absolutely dominated the backstroke events during his career.

2:08.0

And he still holds the world record in the hundred back and in the 200 back. It goes to world records that he said in 2009 and they still stand like six years later, which is crazy.

2:18.0

That's incredible. We had an amazing conversation. So there's that to look forward to coming up. I don't know when I'm going to post that, but it was really cool to connect with him. He's a pretty thoughtful, interesting guy, different from most athletes that that you'll meet a very contemplative soul surfer type of individual. I definitely bonded with him.

2:38.0

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. Right. So should we get some questions? I guess so. We're going to launch right into it. We're going to get right in. Yeah, I'm ready. Are you ready?

2:46.0

I don't know. I'm not sure. Do you want me to read the questions? No. So the first question. And this perhaps might be the only question, depending on how much time we spend on this. But this is from Mike. I'm just going to use his first name, Mike.

2:59.0

How the hell do you forgive and forget the decisions you made in your past? Backstories, super condensed. A metal lady who was married, I was single.

3:09.0

It was a powerful meeting and love at first sight during our relationship. We were discovered by our employer in a way. I chose not to disclose her name and it caused me my career. I waited for her to be with me as she said, but it never happened. And I moved on. I can't get over losing the best career I ever had.

3:25.0

I think of her all the time. I can't get the resentment, failure and stupidity off my mind. It's been almost 10 years. And I still have huge regrets and disappointment. I've tried to forget how can one bury this?

3:38.0

That's a pretty intense question. There's a lot packed into this. But essentially, the theme is shame. How do you deal with shame? How do you overcome shame?

3:53.0

What revolves around shame, the fear, the self-defeatism, the negative self-esteem, the depression, there's a lot that gets packed into that. And I think what's interesting is how we ended it with how can one bury this?

4:09.0

The first thing I would say is that when it comes to shame, the most important thing is to not bury it. Shame loves to be alone. It loves isolation. That's where it can fester and grow and really gain a foothold in your consciousness.

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