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Hello, my name is Guy Kawasaki. This is the Remarkable People podcast. Thank you for joining us. As you know, we're on a mission

to make people remarkable. And today we have another remarkable guest. Her name is Shalanae Sharma,

and we're going to talk about math. Now, she's the CEO and co-founder of Zern, and this is a

nonprofit educational organization to help kids learn math.

And what a wonderful goal and what a wonderful implementation of this lovely strategy of hers.

And she has written a new book that I think you will find fascinating.

It's called Math Mind, subtitled The Simple

Path to Loving Math. That is a nice cadence to it, Shalani. I like that cadence. Anyway,

so we're going to be talking about math today. So Shalani, welcome to remarkable people.

Thank you so much, Guy.

I'm so excited to be here, and I so enjoy your podcast.

Oh, you say that to everybody who interviews you, but I read your book, and as I'm reading it,

I'm thinking, my God, this book is like a combination of Carol Dweck meets Ken Robinson

meets Mary Murphy. It's like the growth mindset and educational mindset and unleashing the power

of youth all combined. So I loved it, as you can tell. Let me just jump in here.

So first, a really basic question, which is tell us why learning math is important at all.

Yeah. Thank you so much, first of all, for what you shared about the book and for actually

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