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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Shakespeare in Swahililand

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

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4.8878 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2017

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Two literary scholars discuss Shakespeare’s influence on the politics, history, and literary culture of East Africa. Edward Wilson-Lee, the son of white wildlife conservationists, spent his childhood in Kenya and now teaches Shakespeare at the University of Cambridge in England. Over the past few years he has spent extended periods back in Kenya, as well as in Tanzania, Uganda, Ethiopia, and South Sudan, researching his book, Shakespeare in Swahililand. Ngũgĩ Wa Thiong’o, the renowned Kenyan playwright, novelist, dissident, and social activist, grew up in Kenya when it was still a British colony and is now a Distinguished Professor of Comparative Literature at the University of California, Irvine. His most recent work is the memoir Birth of a Dream Weaver. Ngũgĩ and Edward were interviewed by Barbara Bogaev. From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast series. Published October 3, 2017. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This episode, “The Language That I Have Lived In,” was produced by Richard Paul. Garland Scott is the associate producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster and Esther Ferington. Esther French is the web producer. We had help from Barbara Caldwell at the University of California  Irvine, Evan Marquardt at Voice Trax West in Studio City, California, and Roger Chatterton at Kite Recording Studio in Cambridge, England.

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0:00.0

Let's start, as we sometimes do, with a bit of Shakespeare.

0:03.6

That's what I tell you, I'll say you'll give you in a bit of Shakespeare.

0:07.0

It's a lot of undo and a ruffe of all of all.

0:11.0

Ah, Basi,

0:13.0

Mungu Tzu, I know how I'm you'll know what I'll do you'll

0:17.0

know what you'll.

0:19.0

Ha!

0:20.0

Ha! He kikahya, I'm men and my men and my tammy. If you don't know that's

0:29.6

Missourg, it's Marry Wives of Windsor, it's likely because you're not one of the millions

0:34.3

of people in the world who speak Swahili? While spoken in many places,

0:40.3

Swahili is most tied to one particular part of the African continent, the one we'll be talking about in this episode.

0:47.3

This episode is about Shakespeare and East Africa. From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited. I'm Michael Whitmore,

1:03.4

the Folger's director. If you aren't from East Africa, you may have never really considered

1:08.4

the outsized role of our favorite English playwright on the region's politics, history, and literary culture.

1:14.6

In this episode, we speak with two people who are profoundly interested in the subject on a deeply personal level.

1:22.6

These two literary scholars both grew up in Kenya, but at different times and under completely different

1:28.8

circumstances. Edward Wilson Lee, the son of white wildlife conservationists, spent his childhood

1:35.0

in Kenya. Today, he teaches Shakespeare at the University of Cambridge in England. Over the

1:40.7

past few years, he has spent extended periods back in Kenya as well as in Tanzania,

1:46.0

Uganda, Ethiopia, and South Sudan, researching his book, Shakespeare in Swahili land.

1:52.6

Edward is joined by one of his great literary heroes, the renowned Kenyan playwright,

1:58.0

novelist, dissident, and social activist Gugi Wathion. Gugi also grew up in Kenya

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