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Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Shakespeare and the Red Scare, with Marjorie Garber

Folger Shakespeare Library: Shakespeare Unlimited

Folger Shakespeare Library

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4.8878 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

“Is he a Communist?” During a House Un-American Activities Committee hearing in 1938, Congressman Joe Starnes probed into the politics of a writer produced by the Federal Theatre Project. The playwright in question? Christopher Marlowe. While Starnes’s blunder became legendary, Shakespeare and his contemporaries continued to come up throughout the Red Scare years. Something about early modern poetry and plays often rang as disquietingly topical. In her book, A Treacherous Secret Agent: How Literature Spoke Truth to Power During the Red Scare, Marjorie Garber reveals how literature has always posed a threat to authority, a power of which Shakespeare was well aware. As she puts it, “poetry makes trouble all the time.” This episode explores how Shakespeare became a magnet for suspicion during the Red Scare—and how he spoke to the moment from beyond the grave. From the Shakespeare Unlimited podcast. Published May 5, 2026. © Folger Shakespeare Library. All rights reserved. This episode was produced by Matt Frassica. Garland Scott is the executive producer. It was edited by Gail Kern Paster. Technical support was provided by Philip Bodger in Lewes, England and Voice Trax West in Studio City, California. Web production was handled by Megan Fraedrich. Transcripts are edited by Leonor Fernandez. Final mixing services provided by Clean Cuts at Three Seas, Inc. Marjorie Garber is the William R. Kenan, Jr., Research Professor of English and of Visual and Environmental Studies at Harvard University. She is the author of twenty books, including Shakespeare in Bloomsbury and A Treacherous Secret Agent: How Literature Spoke Truth to Power During the Red Scare. She lives in London, UK. Learn more about Marjorie Garber and her work at her website.

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0:00.0

From the Folger Shakespeare Library, this is Shakespeare Unlimited.

0:07.0

I'm Farah Kareem Cooper, the Folger Director.

0:11.0

Sometimes governments take a surprising amount of interest in the media.

0:16.0

They can try to apply pressure on news organizations to get more favorable coverage.

0:22.6

A punitive approach to mass media from the U.S. government is actually nothing new.

0:28.2

In 1947, the House Un-American Activities Committee investigated communists in Hollywood.

0:35.0

That led to the infamous Hollywood blacklist, which banned artists like Orson

0:40.2

Wells and Paul Robeson from employment. And back in the 1930s, the committee looked for

0:46.4

communist propaganda in New Deal programs like the Federal Theater Project. That program put on

0:53.5

thousands of productions in small towns and cities across

0:56.9

the country, performing in front of millions of people who had never seen live theater before.

1:03.4

One of the most famous was an acclaimed production of Shakespeare's Macbeth with an all-black

1:09.1

cast.

1:10.8

A new book by the critic Marjorie Garber

1:13.5

examines these official investigations of popular culture.

1:17.2

It's called a treacherous secret agent,

1:20.2

how literature spoke truth to power during the Red Scare.

1:24.7

Garber finds surprising resonances

1:27.1

between those hearings and the texts of the plays,

1:30.3

poetry, and music that came under attack. Literature, she argues, always poses a threat to

1:36.8

those in power, something Shakespeare understood all too well. Here is Marjorie Garber

1:43.3

in conversation with Barbara Bogave. Well, Marjorie Garber in conversation with Barbara Bogieg.

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