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Hi, Steve Murski here, and welcome back for part two of Dan Fogg talking about his book, The Science of Shakespeare,

a new look at the playwrights universe.

There are a couple of people that you talk about in the book.

One is Donald Olson, and I was fortunate enough to hear him give a talk on the night sky and some artworks.

Munch's The Scream and also actually the photography of Ansel Adams.

And, but you talk about some work he did related to Shakespeare.

And this is really solid stuff.

So let's talk about him a little bit,

and then we'll talk about this other fellow Usher,

who's more speculative.

Sure.

Yeah, I'm glad you got to see one of Donald Olson's talks.

They're terrific.

He's, for listeners who aren't familiar with him,

he's been called a forensic astronomer,

so his specialty is finding references to the stars, whether in art, like from a painting. You mentioned

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