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excludes plug-in hybrids, Delantis Financial Services. Hello and welcome to the History Extra podcast from BBC History Magazine, Britain's best-selling history magazine.

I'm Ellie Cawthorne. Today's podcast guest is James Shapiro. James is Professor of English

and Comparative Literature at Columbia University, and his new book, Shakespeare in a

Divided America, looks at the role that Shakespeare's plays have held in American life and how they shaped

the nature's culture and politics. World History's editor Matt Elton spoke to James down the line

to find out more. Is there a moment or a particular staging of a play that inspired you to write

this new book on Shakespeare and America? There was a moment and there was a production.

The moment was the election of Donald Trump in 2016.

And that November, I woke up, that November morning,

I woke up and realized that living in my blue bubble in New York City,

I misunderstood something fundamental about my country.

And I realized that I had better get to work figuring out what that was.

And having spent the past quarter century or so investigating London in Shakespeare's Day, two years,

...