Now administering third eye drops.

Michael Philip here, welcome back to the Mind Meld.

I adore you, my dear wonder dippers. Thank you for being here.

And what I adore about this one in particular is, well, we always do a lot of conversational

mind mining. That's for sure. Hopefully we come up with a gem or two from time to time. But

anytime I truly feel that I came away from one of these conversations with a new, precious idea,

a deepened insight or even just like a simplification of a topic that was once murky.

I feel like maybe I've done something right on those occasions. And I just selfishly come away

feeling like I smuggled a little jewel. I pilfered a little novelty nugget that yields a bit of

existential wealth and perspective or something like that, at least for me personally.

And with respect to this one, the way Kyle talks about shadow work,

I think is really refreshingly simple and clear and potent. It's a real mind treasure,

I dare say, because I find that that topic, unfortunately a lot of young and analytical ideas,

as much as I obviously love them, tend to be wrapped in an inordinate amount of esoteric goo,

a goo that I admittedly enjoy lubing my wonder whiskers with at basically every opportunity.

But I also know that that romantic mythological viscosity does sometimes muddy the true utility

of the concept. And it starts meandering into more philosophical than actionable territory.

And I do think shadow work suffers from that on occasion. But like I said, the way Kyle

characterizes it is just refreshingly simple. Also, I just always rejoice when I run into any kind of

accredited expert in a field that is first and foremost a vulnerable human. You know, when they

want to meet you on that level, instead of leaning on that expertise, because man, like a PhD

is a tempting piece of intellectual bling to flop around. You know, it's kind of like an

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