Shaanan Gelman & His Son: When a Child Becomes Addicted [Divergence VI 2/4]
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4.7 • 704 Ratings
🗓️ 17 March 2026
⏱️ 92 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of the 18Forty Podcast, we talk to Rabbi Shaanan Gelman and his son Ziggy about the persistence of a parent-child relationship when the latter faces addiction.
In this episode we discuss:
- How does habitual drug use evolve into addiction?
- How does a parent help a child struggling with substance abuse?
- How do such a parent and child manage the expectations and perceptions of the outside world?
Interview begins at 15:05.
Shaanan Gelman, rabbi of Chovevei Tzion in Chicago, holds a degree in Computer Science from Yeshiva College and received semicha from RIETS at Yeshiva University. He studied in Israel at Yeshivat Hakotel and the Gruss Institute, and later served as a Kollel Fellow in Boca Raton, where he held leadership and educational roles. He is a member of the Rabbinical Council of America’s executive board, active in the Chicago Rabbinical Council, and serves on the board of Associated Talmud Torahs of Chicago. A committed Zionist, he is active in AIPAC and has led initiatives supporting Israel.
References:
God of Our Understanding: Jewish Spirituality and Recovery from Addiction by Shais Taub
“Being Kevin, Watching ‘Being Charlie’” by Kevin Jack McEnroe
The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath by Leslie Jamison
Alcoholics Anonymous: The Big BookIn the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters with Addiction by Gabor Maté
Addict in the House: A No-Nonsense Family Guide Through Addiction and Recovery by Robin Barnett
Psalms 37
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| 0:00.0 | Hi friends and welcome to the 1840 podcast where each month we explore different topic |
| 0:19.6 | balancing modern sensibilities with traditional |
| 0:22.2 | sensitivities to give you new approaches to timeless Jewish ideas. I'm your host David Bischepkin |
| 0:28.3 | and this month we are exploring intergenerational divergence, the series we do each year before |
| 0:34.7 | Passover exploring how parents and children and families cope with |
| 0:39.5 | our differences. |
| 0:41.2 | Thank you so much to our series sponsor. |
| 0:44.3 | Once again, my dearest friends, Danny and Sarlah Terkel. |
| 0:48.7 | I am so grateful for your continued friendship and support. |
| 0:52.8 | This podcast is part of a larger exploration of those big, juicy, Jewish ideas. |
| 0:58.0 | So be sure to check out 1840.org. |
| 1:00.6 | That's 1-8-F-O-R-T-Y dot org, |
| 1:03.2 | 1840.org, where you can find videos, articles, |
| 1:06.6 | recommended readings, and weekly emails. |
| 1:09.1 | For those who grew up in the 90s and remember all of the |
| 1:14.5 | public service announcements not to do drugs, if you do drugs, you're a turkey. I remember that |
| 1:20.7 | commercial. There used to be all sorts of public service announcements reminding people, don't use |
| 1:26.4 | drugs. Don't fall into peer pressure don't try |
| 1:29.6 | it even once or you'll get addicted etc etc all of which are good advice which of course i am not |
| 1:35.5 | minimizing however if you grew up and remember that world then you probably also have a feeling |
| 1:42.0 | and an inkling that that is not necessarily the best barrier, that is not |
| 1:46.5 | necessarily the messaging that actually prevents people from falling into addiction. |
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