Hello, welcome to the Hoop Collector podcast. We talk about the NBA. It's Thursday morning.

God, I wish you guys could have heard this last 15 minutes. Fortunately, Jackson was not

recording. And maybe unfortunately, joining us from New York City, who tried a birthday

this week. I won't say how old because not even he knows. It's Tim Bonds' house.

Hello, guys. How are we doing? You can find out my age on on howdy partners the show of our

co-host on the show here. Joining us from Dallas, Texas host of Howdy Partners is Ben McMahon.

Howdy Partners, man, Bond Tim. So I appreciate the plug. He was a one heck of a guest after

the early stumble where he forgot his age by four years. How do you like a year? Two?

Four years he was off. Well, I do know this. I do know to celebrate his birthday this week.

Bond Tim's went to, hope I'm not revealing something that you don't want to know. No, do you're good?

Bond Tim's celebrated it through the world anyway. So it's fine.

Bond Tim's celebrated Peter Lugers in Brooklyn. McMahon, have you ever been to Lugers?

I have not. Sounds fancy. It's the kind of place that should be where my dinner is.

I've picked eventually. Wow. Well, we'll do that. We'll do that when we're in town for the

nets in the finals. That's right. It's one of those places, McMahon where it's cash only.

Cash only. It's cash only and there's about five things on the menu and they're all good.

And the, here's what I remember. I hope we're not offending our non-meat eating listeners.

But when they, it's a steakhouse and they bring that, you know, I've been to steak houses all over. McMahon, you're a Texan.

Do we eat? I don't. I don't eat red meat.

I know why I was that's why I was laughing. But you've been to steak houses. I have them. They, they tilt,

when they get there, they tilt the steak plate up at an angle so that the juice runs down to the bottom

of the plate. You can dip it in the juice. It's a quite a great technique. By the way, last week on

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