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The Dig

Sexual Hegemony w/ Max Fox and Chris Nealon

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2023

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Summary

Featuring Max Fox and Chris Nealon on the late Christopher Chitty's book Sexual Hegemony: Statecraft, Sodomy, and Capital in the Rise of the World System. Support The Dig at Patreon.com/TheDig Check out our newsletters and vast archive at thedigradio.com Further reading: libcom.org/article/after-fall-communiques-occupied-california viewpointmag.com/2012/09/12/towards-a-socialist-art-of-government-michel-foucaults-the-mesh-of-power thenewinquiry.com/blog/in-love-and-memory Buy Abolition Geography versobooks.com/books/3785-abolition-geography

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0:00.0

This episode of The Dig is brought to you by our listeners who support us at patreon.com

0:04.9

and by verso books, which has loads of great left-wing titles perfect for dig listeners

0:10.3

like you.

0:12.0

One that you might like is Abolition Geography, essays towards liberation by Ruth Wilson

0:17.2

Gilmore, which is out now in paperback.

0:21.1

Gathering together Ruth Wilson Gilmore's work from over three decades, Abolition Geography

0:25.3

presents her contribution to the politics of abolition as a theorist, researcher, and organizer,

0:31.2

something that Ruthie and I discussed not so long ago here on The Dig.

0:35.6

Abolition Geography moves away from uninterrupted histories of prejudice or the dull

0:40.2

compulsion of neoliberal economics. Instead, Gilmore offers a geographical grasp of how contemporary

0:47.1

racial capitalism operates through an anti-state state that answers crises with the organized

0:53.4

abandonment of people and environments deemed surplus.

0:58.5

Drawing on the lessons of grassroots organizing and internationalist imaginaries,

1:03.1

Abolition Geography undoes the identification of abolition with mere decarceration

1:08.9

and reminds us that freedom is not just a principle, but also a place.

1:13.6

Abolition Geography by Ruth Wilson Gilmore, out now from verso books

1:23.5

Welcome to The Dig, a podcast from Jacobin magazine. My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting

1:34.6

from Providence, Rhode Island. Christopher Chitty left so much paradigm shifting scholarship

1:40.5

unfinished when he tragically died at age 32 in 2015. Thankfully, his friend and comrade Max Fox

1:48.3

picked up Chitty's unfinished dissertation, and turned it into a truly remarkable,

1:53.2

if inevitably unfinished book. Sexual hegemony, statecraft,

1:58.1

sodomy, and capital in the rise of the world system. This interview is with Max and with Chris

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