Hey, it's Rachel Cook, your modern mentor. I'm the founder of Lead Above Noise, a firm

specializing in activating workplaces. We help leaders and teams crack their activation code

to achieve top performance and engagement. Whether it's a leader boot camp, a keynote, or a pulse

check, we've got you covered. In this week's episode, I had the pleasure of

interviewing Beth Message. Beth helps individuals, teams, and organizations get from where they are

to where they want to go through collaborative coaching and consulting and personalized strategies.

She is a brilliant coach and a talent and learning advisor, and she is full of insights and solutions to fuel you forward.

In this episode, we cover the power of clear boundaries and expectations, the importance of setting norms and boundaries that serve the group.

And brace yourself, we talk about the real cost of not taking your PTO. This one is hard to hear.

Okay. So here we go. Enjoy. All right. Well, best message, executive coach and consultant specializing in learning and development and talent. I am so excited to have you on the Modern Mentor podcast today. Thanks for

joining me. Yeah, I'm really happy to join. This is, you know, I think we both work in a similar

space and so it's always great to have these kind of conversations with other practitioners.

Yes, absolutely. And it's part of why I invited you on. I do spend a lot of time talking to

to authors and experts who

specialize in areas that are a little bit different to where I focus. I think you and I kind of

compliment each other in some ways. And so I'm just looking forward to seeing where we bring

the conversation today. Yeah, same. Same. Awesome. So Beth, you and I, in full disclosure, have known each other now for

probably even less than a year. We met at a conference, and I think we just had one of those

mystical connections. I am going to be rolling into year 10 next year, I think, in terms of

running my own practice, but you are still a little bit of a baby

in this space. And I mean that with all due respect in terms of tenure, not expertise.

But you left the world of corporate a lot more recently than I did. You lived in it during

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