Hello and welcome back to Franklin Covey's twice weekly podcast on leadership with Scott Miller. Six years 400 plus episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

I am privileged to sit in this studio and highlight, interview some of the world's most amazing thought leaders, academics, researchers, creators, artists, people who have built something,

inspired someone else to do something.

Sometimes they may or may not be a renowned thought leader or entrepreneur or

sometimes they are people that aren't a household name

and maybe they have done something or survived or recovered from something

and have shown the courage and stamina vulnerability to share

about it to help all of us become better leaders, formal or informal, whatever it is you

are seeking to achieve in your life.

Franklin Covey, of course, the world's most trusted leadership

firm whose mission is to inspire greatness in people

and organizations everywhere.

Today we have a repeat guest who has come at my invitation.

I refer to him as kind of the Germany cricket of the world.

Not a day or week goes by that I'm not in a meeting with a client or a colleague where I say well if

Seth heard that here's what he would say or here's what Seth would push back on that I'm

probably misquoting him but I've, I think every book he's ever published and have been privileged to have interviewed him several times.

His name, of course, is Seth Golden. He's a self-described iconoclast. He's an advisor, a coach. He has educated thousands of people

informally and formally. And his new book is titled This Is Strategy, Make Better Plans.

Seth Gouden, welcome back to On Leadership.

What a treat.

You're always so kind.

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