We're criticized often for having jokes that are too believable. You know, it's like, well, this is the problem. It amounts to misinformation because people are believing that your jokes are true. It's like, well, whose fault is that? Is it the satirist who's trying to like stay a step ahead of the truth or is it reality for bumping up against satire? The Babylon B's intersection of news and Christian church humor may have seen more niche at one point.

Today, it's the most popular satire on the internet dominating where the onion once stood.

And our episode will talk about why.

Our guest, Seth Dillon, bought the bee in 2018.

Coming from a career in e-commerce and specialized in monetizing web traffic,

Seth has led their publication to greater height.

At the time, Seth purchased the site, they pulled 3 million pages per month.

Now, average 20 million pages per month.

Seth and the B are busier than ever.

They're doing sketches, books, including a brand new one, the Babylon Bee Guide to Democracy,

plus newfound collaboration with the popular account Libs of TikTok, known for its reposts of radical lefty TikToks.

Mainstream media and big tech often censor quote-unquote misinformation in order to censor those with opposing views.

Whether out of idiocy or fear, the Babylon Bee is regularly fact-checked for its jokes, leading to the penalization of their social media accounts.

In early 2022, a joke led to their official Twitter account being fully suspended.

Seth has refused to remove that tweet. The account is still locked as of this episode's release.

We dive into the adventure of making satire in the current political climate in this episode.

Plus, Seth reacts to his abortion debate with Joe Rogan going viral.

We discussed the backlash on conservatives for criticizing the Boston Children's Hospital gender surgery scandal,

and we ask, is there anything that's too hard to make a joke about?

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we'll be doing some bonus questions at the end with Seth Dillon. The only way to get access to that part of the conversation is to become a member.

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