Set 1: How Larry Bird Became Larry Legend
Stugotz and Company
iHeartPodcasts
4.9 • 13.6K Ratings
🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Keith O’Brien joins Stugotz to discuss his upcoming book Heartland: A Forgotten Place, an Impossible Dream, and the Miracle of Larry Bird, a deep dive into the roots, rise, and lasting legacy of Larry Bird. O’Brien shares untold stories about Bird’s upbringing in small-town Indiana and reveals how close we came to never knowing the story of Larry Bird, who could have faded into obscurity after leaving Bobby Knight’s Indiana program. Could a 1978–79 Indiana State team happen in today's college basketball, and why were the Sycamores never able to capitalize on having one of the best basketball players ever?
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| 0:13.4 | His name is Bo. |
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| 0:17.8 | I had to crush him, Betty Rubble. |
| 0:19.4 | I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went to commercial break, |
| 0:23.2 | had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black. |
| 0:25.9 | He caused them the game last night, although they won the game. |
| 0:29.4 | You're listening to Stugatsin Company. |
| 0:32.2 | Keith O'Brien is a New York Times best-selling author. |
| 0:35.3 | He wrote Charlie Hustle. |
| 0:36.7 | We had him on to discuss that. |
| 0:38.5 | Fly Girls. |
| 0:39.5 | He is one of the great authors we have. |
| 0:41.6 | One of the great sports authors and storytellers that we have. |
| 0:45.3 | And he has a new book out right in time for March Madness, Heartland, |
| 0:49.3 | A Forgotten Place, An Impossible Dream, and the Miracle of Larry Bird and Keith O'Brien with us right now. |
| 0:56.6 | Keith, why did you decide to write a book about Larry Bird? |
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