This is the Behavioral Observations Podcast, session number two.

Welcome to the Behavioral Observations podcast, stimulating talk for today's behavior analysts.

Now here's your host, Matt Sequoria.

Hey, everybody, it's Matt Secoria.

Today I'm really excited to share this conversation I had with Steve Lawyer.

Steve is a good friend of mine, and we met way back in the day as

first-year graduate students at Auburn University. These days, Steve is the director of clinical

training at Idaho State University. In today's episode, we talk a lot about science and pseudoscience.

We talk about it in the context of our broader popular

culture, but we also get into its implications for clinical practice. So before we get to the

interview itself, I want to let you know that this podcast is sponsored by BSI21.org.

BSI21.org is an ABA news site with hundreds of articles connecting behavior analysis

to our world in a non-academic format.

It's a really great site, and there's all sorts of interesting articles on there.

And as I like to tell people, it's kind of like Yahoo News for behavior analysis, but with the added

benefit of being factually correct. So when you get a chance, check them out at B-S-I-21.org. That's B-S-C-I-21.org.

The next thing I want to mention before we get to the interview itself is I want to talk about how

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