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Cambridge Centre for European Legal Studies (CELS) Podcast

'Session 1: Free Movement of Persons and Establishment' - Eleanor Spaventa: CELS Brexit Symposium

Cambridge Centre for European Legal Studies (CELS) Podcast

Faculty of Law, University of Cambridge

Business, Education, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 15 March 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On 14 March 2019 the Centre for European Legal Studies (CELS) hosted a symposium to discuss the potential implications of Brexit. The aim of this event was to provide informed commentary on issues within the ongoing Brexit process (whatever they may be). Programme: Session 1: Free Movement of Persons and Establishment What are the consequences of the Brexit process for the immediate and future rights of EU citizens within the UK and UK citizens travelling to or working within the EU. This would cover both the right to work, the right to be self-employed, and the rights of those not in employment. Chair: John Bell Martin Steinfeld (University of Cambridge) Eleanor Spaventa (Bocconi University, Italy) Session 2: External Relations What is the effect of the Brexit process on the UK’s ability to conclude trade agreements? What are the potential frameworks within which these might be developed? Chair: Geoffrey Edwards (POLIS) Markus Gehring (University of Cambridge) Georges Baur (Liechtenstein Institute, Formerly EFTA) Session 3: Goods and Services What is the effect of present and proposed arrangements on the free movement of goods and services? How far are the UK and EU markets to be segmented and how will this affect trading across borders, notably that in Northern Ireland? Chair: Stephen Weatherill (University of Oxford) Laurence Gormley (University of Groningen) Gareth Davies (Vrije University, Amsterdam) Session 4: Competition Law How will the substantive rules and procedures on competition law and state aids be affected by the Brexit process in the short and medium term? Chair: Albertina Albors-Llorens (University of Cambridge) Oke Odudu (University of Cambridge) Tim Ward (Monckton Chambers)

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0:00.0

Thank you very much for inviting me.

0:05.2

It's great to be here again.

0:07.4

I was telling Felicity that this is pretty much the only good thing about Brexit

0:12.4

is that I got to visit Cambridge twice this year.

0:16.4

I cannot find any other positive in it.

0:21.6

So I was here in October also discussing citizens' rights,

0:27.6

so I didn't know whether I had more or less the same audience.

0:33.6

And for this reason, I concentrated more on what might happen if we do not reach a deal or if we change the withdrawal agreement.

0:44.8

I don't think even if the withdrawal agreement were to be changed, I think if there is a deal, the citizens part will remain as it is.

0:53.2

I don't think the European Parliament would allow it to be changed.

0:56.8

And I don't think there would be political interest on either side to reopen that.

1:03.6

So by means of introduction, just to remind you what is in the withdrawal agreement is the aim is to, for Brexit, to be the least destructive possible for EU citizens in the UK and UK citizens in the EU.

1:21.9

And pretty much the aim is to allow this status, to grant a special status to EU citizens and UK citizens,

1:31.3

what I call Brexit citizens after Brexit, that will last for their lifetime and gives rights that are similar,

1:41.3

although not equivalent to what they have currently.

1:45.0

So the idea is that Brexit citizens would be entitled to work and leave where they reside.

1:51.0

And something possibly the most important bit of the withdrawal agreement for citizens is that the evidence needed will be much lighter than it might be

2:05.0

otherwise. So the way out to prove that you were in the country, that you were working there,

2:09.3

that you were lawfully resident. The withdrawal agreement anyway is in any case problematic

2:16.3

because it leaves a number of categories very vulnerable,

2:21.3

especially children, disabled people, and it has a greater impact on women than it has on men, probably.

2:31.3

But the withdrawal agreement still guarantees the life and the continuity of rights of citizens.

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