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Deadline: White House

“Serving justice”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Msnbc, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace, Versant, Washington Dc, Government

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2023

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace discusses new reporting that former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows’ joked about election fraud claims ahead of the insurrection, the GOP’s refusal to acknowledge the realities of January 6th as they face the ex-president in the 2024 primaries, Florida Governor Ron Desantis’ COVID problem as he attempts to sell his state’s record on the primary trail, protests across Israel as their parliament passes legislation limiting judicial power, and more. Joined by: Carol Leonnig, Glenn Thrush, Frank Figliuzzi, Glenn Kirschner, David Jolly, Dr. Vin Gupta, Dave Aronberg, Eddie Glaude, Ben Rhodes, and James Stravridis.

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0:00.0

Hi there everyone, it's 4 o'clock in the east.

0:06.3

If and when, special counsel Jack Smith sets about serving justice to Donald Trump and

0:11.5

those closest to him for their roles in the deadly attack at the U.S. Capitol, Hill almost

0:16.7

certainly do so equipped with one very particular, very essential set of facts.

0:22.8

Facts that answer a fundamental question.

0:25.0

Did Trump and his people know that their BS was just that?

0:28.8

Did they know their lies were lies?

0:31.4

Now to prove that in court that yes indeed they did, prosecutors will draw from a number

0:36.9

of sources.

0:37.9

But we understand this afternoon, there's one avenue now in particular focus for them.

0:43.2

Washington Post reports this, a specific exchange of text messages is now being scrutinized

0:48.6

by federal prosecutors.

0:50.5

It is believed to be between then chief of staff Mark Meadows and White House lawyer Eric

0:55.6

Hirschman.

0:56.6

Remember him?

0:57.6

In the process of poo pooing the false claim made by Rudy Giuliani and others that 10,000

1:03.7

dead people voted in Georgia, Meadows mentions his son in Atlanta area attorney was looking

1:09.9

into it.

1:10.9

He writes this, quote, my son found 12 obituaries and six other possibilities depending on the

1:16.1

voter role accuracy.

1:18.1

Eric Hirschman then responds, quote, that sounds more like it.

1:22.2

Maybe he can help Rudy find the other 10,000.

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