Service 04: Where Does Service Lead? (featuring a Luminary Roundtable)
Rule of Life
Practicing the Way
4.8 • 802 Ratings
🗓️ 28 October 2025
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
What if service in the way of Jesus was meant to lead not first to life change or impact, but to relationship? Join Tyler Staton and Shelbi Shutt as they explore kinship as Jesus’ destination for a life of service, featuring conversations with everyday people in the West, testimonials from real-life practitioners, and an interview with a roundtable including Charlee Tchividjian, Gabrielle Clowdus, and Sara Miller.
In this episode’s roundtable, Tyler and this incredible group of female leaders explore why this practice must move beyond service-provider and service-recipient relationships into reciprocal relationships. Charlee Tchividjian is the founder of Every Mother’s Advocate (everymothersadvocate.org), an organization that provides one-on-one, ongoing support for at-risk mothers. Gabrielle Clowdus is the founder of Settled (settled.org) — a team committed to addressing homelessness through close relationships with the chronically homeless and those who serve them. Sara Miller is the founder of A House on Beekman (ahouseonbeekman.org), which empowers children and youth to flourish in the South Bronx.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Rule of Life podcast from practicing the way. |
| 0:05.7 | In each season, we explore an ancient practice from the way of Jesus and its relevance for the modern era. |
| 0:13.3 | This is Season 8, service. Well, for, welcome to our final episode of the service series here on the |
| 0:45.5 | Role of Life podcast. |
| 0:46.6 | I can't believe we're at the end. |
| 0:48.8 | Tyler, it's been a really, really a gift to just get to hear from you. |
| 0:53.8 | And it feels so clear just as the conversation's gone on that this isn't just like good |
| 0:59.1 | insights or thoughts you're bringing. |
| 1:00.8 | It's something that's coming from the way that you are going about living your actual life. |
| 1:05.8 | And so it's just been a gift to get to hear from you. |
| 1:07.7 | But just to provide people a bit of a recap of where we've been, |
| 1:11.8 | and then we'll get into today's topic. Episode one talked about love, which is the motivation |
| 1:17.3 | and the foundation of this whole practice. It's love that gives. It's love to borrow from |
| 1:23.3 | Mulholland is for the sake of others. And then next we talked about hiddenness, which is really essential in influencing us at |
| 1:31.7 | the motivational level as we seek to live a lifestyle of service. |
| 1:36.3 | And the next we talked about availability, which is all about learning to be both intentional |
| 1:42.1 | and interruptible as we go on the way. |
| 1:45.0 | And today we're landing on the destination of service, which is kinship. |
| 1:51.0 | So I'm excited for us to get into that. |
| 1:53.0 | But I thought at first it would be helpful to talk about some of the false destinations that often can come to mind as we think about the practice of service. |
| 2:01.6 | And the people that we interviewed on the streets of Vancouver, this didn't make the cut, |
| 2:07.6 | but there were some real themes that emerged. |
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