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🗓️ 9 March 2023
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Serverless received significant attention when it first emerged in the middle of the 2010s. And although it has now entered the mainstream and is today used in a diverse range of scenarios and architectures, it nevertheless remains a topic that causes considerable confusion and debate: where should we use it? How should we use it? Sometimes, what even is it, exactly?
In this episode of the Technology Podcast, Mike Mason and Prem Chandrasekaran are joined by former Thoughtworker Mike Roberts — author of "the canonical book on serverless," Programming AWS Lambda — to discuss the current state of serverless. They examine the ways that serverless is understood today and explore the impacts and challenges it has for both businesses and software developers.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology Podcast. |
0:12.6 | My name is Mike Mason. |
0:14.0 | I'm one of your regular hosts on the podcast. |
0:17.3 | And I'm joined today by my friend, erstwhile thought worker, Mike Roberts. Mike, |
0:23.0 | hello. Hello, hello everybody. Hello, Mike. We're also joined by Prem C, who's one of the |
0:29.5 | podcast hosts. He's quiet right now because he's having some network problems, but he'll be |
0:35.0 | joining us to ask questions as well. |
0:38.3 | So Mike used to work for ThoughtWorks and he's gone to do great things in the world. |
0:45.3 | And today we're going to be talking about serverless. |
0:48.3 | Mike wrote a seminal article on the Martin Fowler.com website eight years ago now, I think. That's about |
0:58.0 | seven, seven, give or take. All right. Mike wrote, I'm going to call it the canonical book on |
1:04.5 | serverless, which is programming AWS Lambda. It's Java-based focus, but I think that's a pretty comprehensive |
1:13.4 | book. And since then, he's also started a serverless-focused consulting firm and does a lot |
1:20.8 | of consulting for clients using AWS. Is that fair description of who you are and what you're up to, Mike? |
1:29.3 | Yeah, pretty much. The consulting thing's been going on for about seven years now. |
1:35.7 | So, yeah, it's sort of been part and part of that. It's been an interesting history with |
1:40.4 | what we've been working on there. And so today's podcast, we wanted to talk about the state of serverless. |
1:47.8 | Servilus isn't new anymore. |
1:50.0 | It's something that we've talked about previously on the podcast. |
1:53.5 | Having said that, I do think there is still a little bit of confusion around what |
1:57.9 | serverless actually is. |
1:59.0 | So maybe just really briefly, Mike, |
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