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Serpopsychology (WHAT’S CREEPY?) with Frank McAndrew

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Are you creepy? How would you know? What’s “creepy” as opposed to scary or eerie? We talk to the pioneer of this research, Serpopsychologist, Dr. Frank McAndrew, a professor emeritus at Knox College. We chat: dates that give you the willies, Weary Willie the Clown, haunted dolls, college goths, dark alleyways, evolutionary neurobiology, what NOT to get Oprah, the line between horror and comedy, the phobia of balloons, dating tips, and why you should re-evaluate your bathmat. Welcome to Spooktober 2025. We have more waiting in the wings for you this month.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello. Hi, it's the old to-do list you found tucked in a book haunting and taunting you like a creep.

0:06.7

Let's talk creepiness. Is this a study? This is a study? Sure it is. Did it have a name? No, it didn't. It's too niche. So listen, we very, very rarely here at ologies have to coin an ology.

0:19.3

Usually there's something in the literature, but in this case,

0:21.7

I had to do it. And it took me a while, and then I figured it out. So Serpo means to creep in Latin,

0:27.8

like a serpent. And this expert kind of blazed a shadowy overgrown trail to study what makes

0:34.9

something creepy. Why are some dolls creepy? Why does AI creep you out? How do you know if you are

0:40.3

creepy? When is an aversion to creepiness unfair and when is it warranted? And where does this come from in our

0:46.8

lineage? So we're going to get to that in just a sec. But first, thank you to the patrons at patreon.com

0:51.1

slash ologies who contribute as little as a dollar a month to support the show and they

0:55.6

leave their questions, even in audio, before we record. Thank you to everyone out there wearing

1:00.1

ologies merch from ologiesmerch.com. Also, thank you for lifting our spirits out of the muck

1:06.1

with your sweet reviews, which I read every week, such as this just left one from It's Rosa reading, who wrote,

1:12.4

Pottery, have I ever cared before? No. Was I riveted to your latest episode? Yes. Rosa also said in

1:19.5

their review that it was so nice to meet you recently in Reno, where I had given a talk and agreed

1:24.3

it's always wonderful to hang out with oligites before or after a keynote or show or during.

1:30.0

Also, fun surprise.

1:31.4

If you're in New York, mark the calendar for Monday, November 17th.

1:35.9

I'm doing my first ever live show there, piloting it.

1:39.0

So please save the date Monday, November 17th in New York.

1:42.3

Patrons will get all the details and the ticket link first, just in case you're signed up

1:46.4

at patreon.com slash ologies.

1:48.5

Also, thank you to sponsors of the show for making it possible for us to donate to a cause

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