You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound, but of mind,

a journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.

That's the signpost up ahead, Your next stop, the Twilight Zone.

Last time on the Twilight Zone podcast, we gave you a glimpse behind the curtain on Sailing Fest 2025.

And tonight we're going to continue that journey. But before we do, we're going to have a conversation with the man who brought you these conversations. And that is my good friend, Chad Ellis Boykin, the publisher at Jobahouse

Press, Chad, welcome back to the Twilight Zone podcast. Fantastic to be here. Thanks for having me back.

Chad, I think last time you were on the show, we were probably talking about the Twilight

Zone Hiku, which you wrote, and it's an absolutely beautiful book.

I think the layout and design of it is absolutely gorgeous.

And of course, I was immensely grateful to be asked to do the audiobook version

which is out there right now so how's things with the you know the whole publishing world you

know you published that book how's the response been to it so So far so good. You know, I read something recently,

someone said there's never been, it's never been easier to publish, but it's also never been

harder to sell, which there's so much content out there. There's so much great stuff that that's

the challenge is just sort of getting it, getting it out there.

So it's kind of like that, the best of, the best of times and the worst of times too.

But it's been a real fun journey, especially being able to do things like Serlingfest and

did a couple of book fairs recently that went really well.

So I think that it's really a process of just getting in front of people, especially when, you know, my buddy Chris, who did the audio for these recordings, our sort of sound engineer, he said, you know, it's hard enough to start a publishing company. And even harder than that is starting a publishing company that

specializes in niche books and you started a publishing company that's niches within niches.

Right? So it's like he said you've done the hardest thing that you could possibly do and I didn't

really think of it that way, but it's really been fun. It's really, I'm sure it's a lot like the

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