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🗓️ 4 November 2025
⏱️ 29 minutes
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12-year-old Louise lives with her mum in a remote house on the Yorkshire moors. They’re plagued by terrifying and seemingly inexplicable phenomena, but Louise’s mum resolutely refuses talk about it, and warns her not to tell anyone else. Events escalate, until even her mother can’t ignore what's happening. Who, or what, is living in the house with them?
Written and presented by Danny Robins Experts: Bridget Christie and Peter Laws Editing and sound design: Charlie Brandon-King Music: Evelyn Sykes Theme music by Lanterns on the Lake Commissioning executive: Paula McDonnell Commissioning editor: Rhian Roberts Produced by Danny Robins and Simon Barnard
A Bafflegab and Uncanny Media production for BBC Radio 4
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| 0:07.3 | Hello, I'm Kimberly Wilson. I'm a psychologist, and in my new podcast, Complex, I'll be your guide |
| 0:14.4 | through all the information and misinformation that's out there about mental health. |
| 0:19.0 | I'm joined by expert guests covering topics |
| 0:21.8 | from people pleasing to perfectionism, |
| 0:24.2 | burnout to empathy, |
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| 0:27.3 | so we can understand ourselves a little better. |
| 0:30.5 | Complex with me, Kimberly Wilson. |
| 0:33.0 | Listen on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:38.6 | So I'm a biomedical scientist and I work in the morgue. |
| 0:46.9 | Meet Louise. |
| 0:47.9 | She lives in Ripon in North Yorkshire. |
| 0:49.9 | She's in her late 30s with long, dark hair. |
| 0:52.6 | I assist pathologists with post-martimbs. |
| 0:56.2 | So you are surrounded by the dead on a regular basis? Surrounded by the dead, yeah. |
| 1:01.2 | Does that make you more or less likely to believe in ghosts? I would say less. For me, you've got this |
| 1:08.3 | person in the room with you, and they're not here. |
| 1:12.4 | When your body stops, you've stopped. |
| 1:14.5 | And yet you are here to tell me about an experience that happened to you when you were younger. |
| 1:19.1 | That feels very much like a ghost story. |
| 1:21.9 | How does that feel? |
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