Two men collide, rival nations. It's a primitive clash, venting years of frustration.

Guess what I'm trying to say is that if they can change, then you can change, and we can all change.

It's time for flats and shanks!

Hello and welcome to this week's episode of our flats and shanks podcast.

I'm David Flatman and I've lost to an half stone. Well done me.

I'm Tom Shanklin and I need to lose a little bit and for once I haven't faked hand today and I actually look better.

It's time I realise that.

Sun's been in mate. It's not golfing whether yet.

You know what I'm like.

Someone told me the other day that calling people mate on TV and podcast is really unprofessional.

I've never heard Mark Dernesmith say mate. He's too posh to say mate.

So what you're saying is we have to start us again.

No, we're here we are Tom. Okay, yeah exactly.

But yeah, we will. Can you stop going about my weight loss please?

I'm happy for you.

It's good. It's a good thing. I've lost two and a half stone, I kid.

You can't shout about like little winds like that. I wasn't going to mention it.

I've gone, I thought I was 20 stone. I'm actually 19 stone now.

We're just here in the card of blues box. We're in actually Heineken's box but other beers are available aren't they?

It's not tasty. No, actually I prefer Guinness.

We're with Reese Blumberg who's the the general manager of slash complete operator of.

Oh yeah, we are.

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