How was it living next to Mr Palmer's house?

I mean, we had a bomb go off in their garage.

But it was quite frightening.

I'm Livy Haydok, and this is gangster.

The explosive story of John Goldfinger Palmer.

He built an empire in the sun,

scamming tens of thousands of innocent people.

I said, how are you?

And he went, I'm John Palmer!

So I said, you're the con man who's taken all my money, then are you?

A scam that ultimately turned bloody.

When people started to complain, Palmer sent in violent men.

This is gangster, the story of John Palmer.

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Before we begin, I just wanted to make you aware that this episode contains descriptions of extreme violence.

We walked across the border, the Syrian border,

like it was a walk in the park,

and they were like men wearing all black with their faces covered with guns on the arms.

And it was just a bit surreal, you know, seeing it in person, no?

As a 15-year-old girl from Bastel Green,

when you're staring at a load of men, black clad, carrying weapons, what are you thinking?

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