Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to tell you why I love podcasting.

I'm Sasha Johansson, I'm an Assistant Commissioner for the BBC and I work on making podcasts.

My real passion is discovering unbelievable on her stories and working with the biggest

stars who can really bring those stories to life.

I love the whole process of making podcasts from the spark of an idea to hearing the final

edit.

There's nothing like it.

What makes BBC podcast special is that we're working for you, so whatever we commission

has to reflect the things that you care about and love, wherever you are in the UK.

So if you like this BBC podcast, there's so much more to discover.

Have a listen on BBC Sounds.

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

I don't like horror films, I don't like ghost stories, I've got no interest in the supernatural,

anything like that.

This is Grant, he's wearing a neat black polinex sweater, sensible yet stylish glasses,

and he's got a kind of sophisticated grown-up air to him.

Does it feel odd then to be sat here telling me a ghost story?

It doesn't feel as if I'm telling a ghost story, I'm telling you a series of facts because

everything is exactly what happened and how it happened.

So for you, this is a story where some of the characters just happen to be ghosts.

Yeah.

To be completely clear though, when you think about this now, do you believe that you saw

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